Sven Roeder
11:50 Wed Oct 18
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Has it actually been confirmed that Sampson even said these things?
I thought they were denied and the video evidence of a meeting where at least one was meant to have been made proved it didn't
From my reading they have ignored actually proving anything and jumped to apologising for it
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Infidel
11:41 Wed Oct 18
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So an 'independent' barrister has now decided that Sampson racially abused Eni Aluko for saying "hope your family doesn't bring ebola with them when they come over"
The barrister did not say that it was a racist comment, only that it was in violation of the law on racist comments. That isn't the same thing at all. The way the law defines racism and the way the rest of us define it are two different things.
If Sampson's joke is racist then the bar on racism has been set so low that every single one of us on here is guilty. He did not say to Aluko "I'm not picking you because you're black". He made a joke about ebola in west africa. It's not particularly funny but it's not remotely offensive either.
There is a Mexican bird flu going around and if Bilic says to Chicha "don't bring any of that flu with you when you come back from the world cup qualifiers!" nobody would bat an eyelid. It's just a joke. But when it's a Nigerian player suddenly an innocent joke becomes a drama.
There is a real danger here that easily offended snowflakes like Aluko kick up a fuss and demand compensation (she got £80,000 from the FA) and set back the cause of equality because she has got all shouty about something that isn't remotely offensive. There is no way a white person could do that.
There has to be a proper threshold for these things. Racism is when the comments are overt, offensive and designed to discriminate. Sampson's comments were completely harmless, but of course the FA has rolled over and hung him out to dry out of fear of the mob descending on them. Shame on you Martin Glenn.
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zico
6:46 Fri Oct 13
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Sniper 10:59 Fri Oct 13
Oh yeah it was all quite a joke at times. I remember when we were making our League Rules I contacted the FA for advice and they said a new Standard Code was being brought in the following season, basically same rules for everyone but you add your own bits in the gaps.
I typed it out and sent it to our local County FA for sanction and they didn't sanction it because there were certain rules they "didn't agree with" I basically told them they better agree with them soon because they were the rules the FA were bringing through in about 4 months! The County FA didn't even know and they had basically thrown out their own new rules!!! Obviously a painful, embarrassing, amusing change of tune was in order and I think we were the first to have our FA Rules sanctioned!!
Although I never did manage to get a job at the County FA after that. Wonder why?!?!?!??
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clem132
11:58 Fri Oct 13
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madness, yet no one has had a pop at Carlton Palmer.
in his new book it says i'm here in my big house with a White Gardner and a White man cleaning my car.
Imagine if this was the other way round would be in every paper
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Sniper
10:59 Fri Oct 13
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That's ridiculous zico
If they ever properly clamped down on dissent, language and diving properly and punished them as they should do then the players would stop within a couple of months and the game would be 100x better in the long run
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zico
10:36 Fri Oct 13
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I lost any confidence in the FA years ago. I used to run an Adult 11 a side Sunday League and we and our Referees had FA direction one season to crack down heavily on dissent and foul language and issue yellow/red cards for the offence. I can remember quite a few cards over the opening weeks of that season and we also a wave of complaints from Clubs that they had players cautioned or sent off and yet on Match of the Day this was still going on at top level.
After watching one particularly feisty West Ham v Man United live game on Sky when I think it was Rooney who couldn't keep his mouth shut without consequence I wrote to the FA asking how on earth we could expect Grass Roots layers to abide by the law if the top players were still getting away with it?
I still have their written reply somewhere and it astounded me. Basically it said that top level football was an entertainment and if the Referees at that level took the directive too seriously there would hardly be any players left on the pitch at the end of the game and it was FA "duty" to have top players playing not being sent off.
One rule for one etc. Never took the FA seriously after that!!
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PwoperNaughtyButNot
9:26 Fri Oct 13
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Thy sack the England manager because he had a relationship with a player when he was in club management.
They the appoint a female manager who is now married to her sold manager from when she played club Football.
Hmmm
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LAF
6:11 Wed Oct 11
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Hang your heads in shame, you Kiwis...The All Blacks.....good grief!!!!!
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Northern Sold
5:58 Wed Oct 11
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Errr... dunno........
... tell you what though OTB... that fucking stadium that we rent is a right shit cunt hovel eh??
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On The Ball
4:46 Wed Oct 11
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The new interim manager has picked her first squad - and it doesn't have Eni Aluko in it. Wonder what kind of discrimination this will be?
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gank
3:02 Fri Sep 22
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I think it's time Sport England detatched themselves from the FA and formed a new NGB.
With the money involved, the current FA are a law unto themselves anyway so why would they care about regulation and governance?
The new NGB would take ownership of grass roots football and as it evolves will eventually take over the existing FA and then it would be run properly at last.
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Gavros
2:36 Fri Sep 22
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The FA agreed to pay the black woman who made the race allegation 80 grand.....but are withholding some of it because she continued to mouth off about it.
Meanwhile the FAs chief executive deliberately chose a black woman to lead the investigation into it, when the FA itself had denied that choosing someone to investigate based on their race (see David Lammy) wouldnt happen.
What a fucking joke.
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nerd
10:56 Thu Sep 21
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Does come on you irons offend gays
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Mike Oxsaw
10:10 Thu Sep 21
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No one gets shown a white card for a misdemeanour - it's always a "card of color".
I bet if Brexit was a color, THAT would be white, too.
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geoffpikey
9:37 Thu Sep 21
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If Son Heung-min gets booked, is the ref guilty of playing the race card?
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Private Dancer
6:52 Thu Sep 21
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Was shocked to see this.
I suppose one of the better things about WHO is that the majority on posters on here are dinosaurs, even racism is back now that the owners have given up the ghost.
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Mike Oxsaw
6:37 Thu Sep 21
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Would having a "strip of color" as A SECOND strip be considered derogatory, by association, to "people of color" ?
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BillyDe7
6:29 Thu Sep 21
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We're all going to pretend that the England national team doesn't have a long history of racist (white supremist) support are we?
It seems to me that the FA will be conscious that far more of the TV audience will be aware of the history of English racist fans than they will of the home kit of Tranmere Rovers and will have wanted to avoid the assumption that they were turning a blind eye to the former.
They didn't burn the banner or demand Tranmere remove it - they covered it for the duration of the match.
For the FA this seems quite reasonable and sensible which, Lord knows, is rarely something that can be said.
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DaveT
6:10 Thu Sep 21
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Sven,
With her name don't you mean completely metal?
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Russ of the BML
5:37 Thu Sep 21
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White Pony
Gavros
Right ok, cheers.
So basically, despite it actually being anything to do with race, with what is currently going on that was a stupid thing to do, yeah?
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REALGSA
5:21 Thu Sep 21
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Shop - The White Company is next in line to be BLACKlisted
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